MSU shooting: Suspect dead, 3 killed, 5 injured; what happened They help stem the tide of STDs, date rape, the dangers of substance abuse, etc., Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. Since, as was noted in the introduction, it usually remains the students choice to partake of such environments, I dont think that we can disapprove of these schools on ethical or legal grounds. Reading the article, Im finding myself agreeing. The biblical expectation of modesty is that the conduct of both men and women, which includes but is not limited to dress, serves to enhance rather than detract from the reputation of the Gospel (1 Tim. We can have/get tattoos, we dont have to attend church at all if we dont want to. I transferred to PCC my sophomore year and had a great floor leader. Arrests, convictions, and firearms understandably lead to suspension or termination, but so can purchasing and consuming alcohol (even when of age), attending a bar or a club, involvement with a cult, Satanism, or witchcraft, or engaging in sexual activity. Penalties may include fines and/or imprisonment. God created sex. Anyone caught in such a position faces discipline or dismissal. Thanks for that There are a couple Id like to flesh out. The bible is the guideline to these rules. If you want to be a Christian, go to a Christian school if possible. No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. God created the creativity within human beings. Raffles are not even allowed as fundraiser due to their association with gambling, which is also banned. The demerits for infractions such as not wearing hose to dinner, being late to church, being late to class, staying up after 11 pm lights out to work on my art homework projects, etc. The only strict rule they have is drinking and they wont kick you out if they find out you drank. The admission office refused to release the student handbook until one signed on the dotted line, feet on campus for semester orientation and parents away from campus. Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. Tons of guys here have Call of Duty and Halo, Skyrim and Gears of War, heck, many have Mortal Kombat and Devil May Cry. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? because Guess what these colleges are wrong to force students to suppress their governing rights that were written long before most of these colleges where even developed. Hey Amos, youve got a very urgent meeting with Dr. Wood tomorrow. When you look at little children laughing, or animals playing, or men and women gathering together to talk and experience the presence of others, youre witnessing God at work. The student body is also expected to maintain a standard of modesty at all times while on campus. Church attendance is required once a week, but it is not monitored. These risks include, but are not limited to, physical and mental dependency, damage to the heart and lungs, and, in some cases, death. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. and everyone is a sinner, but it is much better to have standards (standing for something morally Why all the restrictions regarding dancing? It is NOT frowned upon if you do not attend other Christian things like church simply suggested. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. This university has impacted my life in so many ways, and has helped me see just how to integrate my faith and integrity into my career. The Cedarville Experience, our student handbook, is designed to help you be successful at Cedarville University. DRESS AND APPEARANCE Our approach to standards for dress and appearance seeks to honor biblical principles of modesty as humility expressed in dress and to provide general guidelines appropriate for a Christ-centered educational institution. Amos prophecy describes the restoration of Gods people as involving drinking wine. Its interesting how no one stops to consider how small their God & free will must be in order to need such standards. Going far beyond the usual, generally accepted standards of not breaking the law, acting in a disruptive or discourteous manner, and remaining honest in word, deed, and homework, they raise a number of fascinating moral and ethical questions regarding personal freedom. But once again, if you believe in supporting them or neutral, they wont do anything to you or criticize you. You willingly agree to their rules when you come here and they arent a secret. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines. (We had not had sex for those who was wondering) I was on the phone with him in my dorm room and my RA overheard our conversation. I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? I totally agree. degree, but never got it. I have met people that go to PCC and they have all said only good things about it. The place else may just I am getting that kind of information written in such an ideal manner? 2:310; 1 Pet. and the campus is primarily pro-life, yes. However, this article doesnt actually say that these schools are bad just that they are very strict, which they are. Attempting to undermine everything I believe in? Institutions promoting morality in an immoral society. I wonder if its the product of a fundamentalist Christian school (mine was formed at Catholic schools and cheering the murder of alleged gay people was never on the syllabus). Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. I do not see why people judge these schools so harshly as a non-christian I still think that these colleges are not wrong. They love to give demerits there and everyone is encouraged to be a snitch. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. Just like if we do a 270 double front flip on our jet ski, we are no better or worse off. Your paragraph on Oral Roberts University is inaccurate. 5:18; 1 Tim. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). Again, some book says so doesnt provide a justification of anything. Welcome to a place where Gods very attributes are slandered and blasphemed. She told me that I was uncapable of loving because i had not experienced Gods Love. How rude of her to think she knows my life and that I had not experienced Gods love! The big issue that I have is the way the university attempts to control activity while school is not in session and students are at home. Feel free to email me at [emailprotected]. Its similarly interesting how people choose which laws & pieces of the Bible they will follow. They reserve the right to discipline any student who does so, most especially in cases when the politics and ideals expressed in the protests go against the schools extremely conservative beliefs. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Use of alcohol was simply pushed underground out of regulatory bounds and resulted in the creation of a black market. But God does not write off enjoying anything unless it is harmful to our bodies or hurts others, neither of which are true about alcohol. Just as with eating food offered to idols, as Paul discusses, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with alcohol consumption. After dusk, mixed groups are not allowed to fraternize without chaperones because having a group of friends including males and females alike is not normal psychosocial behavior it is improper and apparently leads to premarital sex and dancing and other alleged affronts to Jesus. Sexual abuse and incest are very understandably considered a violation due to their illegality and penchant for psychological damage, but legal activities like abortion, premarital and extramarital sex (even within the confines of an open marriage), and homosexuality are held up as just as appalling. But premarital sex, homosexuality, aligning oneself with occult religions (though the handbook never actually specifies which belief systems they consider occult), using expletives, tobacco possession or use, dancing, and working at any establishment that encourages or involves any such things apparently constitute impropriety and stand as offenses worthy of expulsion. So, to be clear: Students may not eat at a brewery, alehouse, or pub even if they are just going to eat food because they can be dismissed from the University. Seeing (or participating in) vigorous debates where practically nothing is held as a common assumption between the opposing debaters is a great way to develop someones intellectual capabilities, especially critical thinking skills. -Tobacco, its a smoke free campus, just like NKU is now. -Dressing immodestly (oh no, youre not allowed to dress like a slut and show off your assets to the entire student body) Your moral compass seems to be spinning. Dry Town: Why Cedarville Township exists as one of only hundreds of dry towns in the U.S. The men and women have their own elevators, must not be together in isolated areas, cannot swim together, even at the beach. God created happiness and laughter. If you want information about these schools, do your homework by going straight to the source. Violations of these guidelines may result in dismissal. They also require the students to dress up for all morning classes, no matter what the class was too. It is a small institution with an enrollment of 3,540 undergraduate students. Its your belief. Registrar's Office. All serious and dastardly crimes against the institution. Students struggling with drug or alcohol use may obtain confidential support at Counseling Services and University Medical Services. You are loved. Folk dancing? If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. Honestly, this is lazy journalism. Getting drunk is still a sin. This article reads like it was written by a the assistant editor of my high school newsletter with a skewed agenda and out dated infobut I enjoyed it. No, they do not allow engaging in it, and I honestly think thats not something good. But the following schools nonetheless play host to a number of regulations that seem rather appalling to mainstream society, and this article takes an admittedly irreverent peek at a little of what they have to say. This is one of the major reasons stated by Dr. White himself. I see nothing wrong with any of those guidelines. I do believe Cedarville gets a lot of things right, especially in the area of academics. Yay secularism! They have every right to set the standards they want to set. Cedarville provides the following specific guidelines intended to help all students with their commitment to moral purity: Students are prohibited from accessing pornographic or obscene websites or creating links to such sites. McKendree. Youre a different kind of stupid. To offer a different perspective, I graduated from Asbury in the 90s, lived by the rules, and benefited from being part of a voluntary community that generally did the samenot out of fear or self-righteousness, but because of the high value they placed on faith and community. Mixed groups of males and females must agree to confer in the presence of a chaperone. I chose to attend Pensacola Christian College, nobody forced me. We hope you continue to read and criticize our articles. We are also warned to be careful about what we approve and to seek each others mutual edification. Because I want to go to Asbury. I have a mission that I am just now working on, and Ive been at the glance out for such information.|. There wasnt anything there that drove me crazy. Your email address will not be published. However, as a Cedarville student, you represent the University. Any and all work must not interfere with weekday prayer sessions, either. If you dont like it find somewhere else to go to college. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth.. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. Michigan State gunman carried note threatening New Jersey schools Official MBA partner of The Economist. What if the rule was actually because the majority of other schools have Title IX sexual assault cases involving the influence of alcohol? I went to PCC in the early 80s. Some of the dating offenses include displays of affection beyond hand-holding both on- and off-campus, seeing one another in swimming or sunbathing attire, not exiting a car at the same time immediately upon turning off the engine, being caught alone together while at school, and going on single dates while a freshman. __________________________ If students go from a strict household (as I suppose most of these students do) to a strict school, they will have no chance to learn true self-control. You arent allowed to have any music by a contemporary artist or anything with even the slightest beat. The only Biblical justification provided in the handbook is that it is listed as a disputable matter by Paul, which we will get into later. And in your rush to condemn schools that ban stuff that the book theyre led by tells them is wrong and sinful, you left out the worse stuff. The handbook gives the wrong message in this part; dancing is not allowed in groups if it is /suggestive or sultry./ They try to limit large dancing gatherings because they, of course, cannot monitor everyone to make sure they are following that rule. In America, people can express their opinions and say what they want. Rules above and beyond that can get in between us and God, but condoning behavior that goes against His ways is very dangerous. We married after she graduated. Cedarville University is intentional about creating a Christ-centered community, rigorous in our pursuit of scholarship, and balanced in our approach to Christian lifestyle. Cedarvilles prohibition of alcohol simply diversifies students tactics to engage in the habits they will inevitably choose to form. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well. For example, skirts/dresses should fall mid-thigh, midriff and underwear should not show, leggings/tights should have a skirt, dress, or shirt over top that falls mid-thigh (except during exercise), and shirts should not be low-cut and should have modest straps. I agree strongly with Tara. According to the student handbook, Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. "It was the Woman" - The Blame Game that Started with Eve Forgery, providing incomplete or misleading information, scanning and not attending chapel, or misuse of your student ID card are examples of dishonesty that will result in discipline. But please dont judge women by their sex life or their religion, as people like me will not judge you by the same nor by your faith. The difference is, God cares about the first and does not care about the second. Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. Carson) does not equate to belief in everything they believe or agreement with any or all of their actions. I love the Godly atmosphere it gives, and completely disagree with you. A church I was told to attend? I barely made it through a semester. I would like if you can wright me. Neither freshmen nor sophomores are permitted to drive cars to work, either. AND, IF I had not experienced Gods love, Why doesnt she try to show me instead of disipline me when I did nothing wrong!!!!!! Your argument is no better than saying something is right because its in Mein Kampf or saying that Western values are wrong because they upset Osama bin Laden so much he destroyed some buildings. 2021-22 Student Handbook - Cedarville University Everyone should look at the evidence presented and formulate their own personal opinion of the matter. What do the students do when theyre not in classes? Stay up the great paintings! The second problem is that Cedarville seems oblivious to the fact that the same thing has happened at Cedarville. Camping trips with the opposite sex arent strictly forbidden; theyre just discouraged. Good job elarning to sneak though. In fact, Amos 9:14 says, I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit.. but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. They make you go to bed by 11pm every night, even on weekends, no matter what homework projects you may may be working on, no matter what, no exceptions, unless you want demerits. Students are expected to remove hats before entering class or chapel. There are always going to be kids that break rules.i went to parties were kids were drinking alcohol. If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. They completely reach into the personal lives and convictions of their students, demanding that they refrain from such so-called perversions such as premarital sex, extramarital sex (even if both parties agree to an open relationship), and homosexuality. They are christain schools and everybody there must not only act like one but be one. In addition to University prohibitions, state and federal law prohibits the unlawful sale, use, or possession of drugs and alcohol. What's the most frustrating thing about Cedarville University? - Unigo.com Save for the dress code and media violations, most of these infractions can lead to disciplinary actions or even outright dismissal from the school. That's right, an MBA degree. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) I went to Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles and the school is laid back we can have alcohol on campus go to dance clubs if we want to,so I say this GO FUCK yourself you religious nuts, I attended Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles They dont have strict rules lie BJU which I think is a little extreme If I want to go to Dance Clubs or a bars I will Let them try to stop me because I will Tell to where to go and how to get there. Obviously, dishonest or disruptive remains heavily discouraged as it does even in public schools. No they really dont. leftover elk tags wyoming; when did rumspringa originate; cedarville university crazy rules Required fields are marked *. And if you have to miss which many do at one point or another you get 8 free chapel skips. Honesty, refraining from causing harm to others, community, and staying within the laws of the home country all remain relatively reasonable and universal codes that give students structure while still preserving their individuality and bolstering their character. Okay, I am here just to argue about one thing. this is what I think of those colleges They can go fuck a buffalo for all I care how dare they dictate your life. However, these organizations listed in this article are forcing students to live by ridiculously strict rules and I dont see how anyone can think this is the right way to live. I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. However, while I appreciate the desire to have a biblically based view on alcohol, I do believe this article misses the heart behind the rule of abstaining from alcohol while being a student at Cedarville. L, 8-10. Cedarville University - CollegeSimply Political or social demonstrations including harmless picketing are completely banned on campus, and the University heavily discourages participating in any held off-campus as well. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. Cedarville does their best to preserve their image among students, and that is a precaution that I dont think is unreasonable. Thank you for your comment! Same reason why youre allowed to practice pretty much any religion and go here. There are a few on this list that are over the top in their rules, like Bob Jones and Pensacola. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. I imagine that most people know about the tendency of people who live in extremely sheltered and restrictive environments to go wild as soon as these restrictions are removed and they realise how much freedom they have, because they never learnt self-control. Nor have I lied to him about my history; including the fact that Im a divorcee from an arranged marriage at barely 16 to a man Id met twice, arranged to keep me out of trouble. It was absolute bullshit, but because I had short hair( girl) I guess I wasnt godly enough They are doing more damage to the kids that have no idea what theyre getting into. And was to that if I wear modest clothing my tattoos should not be a problem. In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. In addition, all freshmen with jobs must consent to being chaperoned by a prayer captain or one of their assistants or an upperclassman while working. Even if you are a staunch conservative fundamentalist christian, I would not recommend attending Pensacola Christian College. This Florida institution takes its honor court very, very seriously going so far as to issue demerits for a number of completely legal offenses. Oh, Im sorry, you must know so much more than the current students and those who have graduated and are leading great lives. When asked why not, her response is always that she lost a lot of her motivation and dedication for faith development because of the Asbury rules you were not allowed to grow up into responsible adulthood. However, no mention is made of men wearing very short shorts or tank tops that expose most of their upper body. For this, I say thank you. Students are not allowed to use, purchase, share, or possess alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, or any illegal drug on or off campus. Expressions of dance performed in a manner that honors God and promotes holiness are permitted. Some rules are ridiculous. It is near 30,000 dollars a year, and Cedarville is not known for its great financial aid! Behavior that would cause property damage or directly impedes or disrupts the lawful activity of others. Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. Actuallythe standards for Brigham Young University are slightly off. People have parties all the time. these are adults who may have attended high schools where,they like myself,was paddled for minor mistakes. As a matter of fact, Im taking a dance class currently! While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. God didnt make us to reject each other. Premarital sex is wrong,the bible clearly states so amongst other things. They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). 1 Corinthians 8:8 argues, Food will not commend us to God. Students choose to attend and have full access to handbooks before making that decision. Sports is taken seriously and we do very well in the Div One level.Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow etcthese are outstanding Christian athletes/men and went to secular schoolsyou dont have to be christian and goto to a christian college to stay christian.some students like the positive atmosphere and some just like the locationeveryone has their own preference. PERSONAL CARE AND RESPONSIBILITY All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. Their lives suck. I cant believe you missed out on Bob Jones U finally lifting their ban on interracial dating JUST ten years ago. I laud these schools and urge them to bring moral decadence to the bearet minimum. This biblical teaching, coupled with the reality that alcohol is addictive to many and that alcohol-related problems pose a major threat to college students, warrants wisdom concerning the use of alcohol. These are CHRISTIAN colleges: did you expect them to accept homosexuality, occultism, and premarital sex? As for chapel, yeah, its mandatory. Faith College Largo Florida. The most important thing to remember is that each person attending these schools is a responsible adult. you people that are hatin on the Christian colleges are so corrupted by the devil that you think goin out drinkin, havin a good time, aborting babies, sex outside of marriage, and the overall stupidity that youre involved in is what really makes you happy.

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